Bayside Church of Granite Bay- Lies Never Become the Truth

When the Pastor of a church lies and commits sin, he is no longer a true shepherd and must resign.

Neither Ray Johnston nor anyone in his leadership team are being held accountable for their actions and their inactions.

Anyone who is not above reproach in ministry in Gods house must step away from ministry. We are seeing churches across America who are no longer tolerating corruption and sin to permeate their church.

Many churches are collapsing under the weight of sin.

Bayside Church of Granite Bay needs to immediately put a stop

in the lack of accountability in its leadership.

Ray Johnston is a liar! He knows God hates a lying tongue.

He didn't care that he lied in an email to the Bayside Church on January 12, 2010 (Read it below)

Lying is an abomination to God.

Jesus Himself said that the devil is the father of lies.

In an attempt to raise money from the Bayside Church Members,

Pastor Ray sent an email to the Bayside members. It stated:

"I don't send letters like this without a lot of thought"

But in reality, it wasn't Ray's thoughts at all. He read about a very successful money raising campaign that Rick Warren had just done. It was written about on Saddleback's website and on the national news. (see this link)

Rick Warren's Prayers Answered - ABC News

The email that Ray Johnston sent to his members was almost word for word what Rick Warren had sent to his members. There were a few minor changes to make it seem original and Ray's ideas and thoughts.

But in reality, Pastor Ray used Rick Warrens ideas.

It's called "plagiarism".

You can read it for yourself; their emails are below.

Bayside member, Jack Nordby, got the email from Pastor Ray,

and read the story in the news and immediately realized what

Pastor Ray had done.

Jack attempted to ask Pastor Ray about this indiscretion,

But neither Ray nor his leadership team wanted to answer

for what Ray had done in the email to the membership.

For the next 16 years they went about their church business,

"Business as usual" and ignoring what Pastor Ray did.

This wasn't Pastor Rays first encounter with member Jack Nordby,

nor the first time he ignored Jack.

Jack has been investigating the Raley's crime for 35 years.

When Jack discovered that another Bayside member Bill Coyne,

was the current President and CEO of Raley's and Jack was wanting

to sit down with Bill Coyne and Ray Johnston to discuss the Raley's crime.

Neither men would talk with Jack, which raised many questions

about Ray's connection with Coyne and the Raley's crime.

Nobody is willing to talk about the Raley's/Teel family crime!

That should tell you everything you need to know.

Discover more about Ray's and Bill's cozy relationship below.

And visit the page: Raley's Legal Counsel LOL.

It's a clown show.

If you are a member of Bayside. You're in for a wake-up call

For 18 years Ray Johnston has continued on in his sins. It is time for him to repent.

Perhaps Ray Johnston in his sheer ignorance about truth, thought it was more lucrative for himself and Bayside to just ignore Raley's crime and to not force the issue with Bayside member Bill Coyne to defend the accusations being brought against Raley's, the company where Coyne was their attorney, but at this time he was now Raley's CEO and President.

For a man who was wearing all those hats, he sure was a cowardice in the faith when it came to his duties to uphold Raley's good name.

It is quite possible that hiring Bill Coyne was Raley's big mistake.

But Bill Coyne with his legal mind, knew he couldn't come up against the mountain of evidence that he knew would obliterate the Raley/Teel family business and wealth. He knew that Charles Nordby was the man who created all of the Raley's success and wealth.

Bill Coyne was also privy to all that Raley's did to him.

As a corrupt attorney, a corrupt President and CEO, and even worse a corrupt man professing to be a Christian to everyone, Bill Coyne is heading into a very dark time in his life, and everyone will see it.

Ray Johnston and Bill Coyne must have conspired to hide from the

family of Charles Nordby and remain silent.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote this:

“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

Unless they both repent for this evil they did to Charles Nordby,

they will face the wrath of God, and the name of Charles Nordby will be the echoing sounds they have to endure in the darkness of hell.

Why did Pastor Ray Johnston ignore Jack Nordby for 18 years?

Ray was not powerful enough to expose Raley's crime. Instead, he remained silent like everyone did.

It was not just Ray Johnston's fault. He was just doing exactly what the devil wanted him to do. NOTHING!

Why? Because "The thief does not come except to steal,

and to kill, and to destroy. "

And that was exactly what Raley's had done to Charles Nordby.

Raley's, Mike Teel, Bill Coyne, Ray Johnston and everyone

who worked so hard to make sure Charles Nordby never saw justice,

are all of the thief, the devil, Satan and his forces of darkness.

The question is, what side are you on?

Do you believe in the Bible?

Do you believe in truth?

Do you believe in justice?

If you said "Yes" to those questions,

then you are not on Ray Johnston's side.

Bayside Member Jack Nordby just wanted an answer from Ray.

18 years and not one reply back from Pastor Ray Johnston. The Bayside "Cover-Up Culture" is rampant.

The "Cover-Up Culture" is what has plagued mega churches today.

It is where all the leadership team chooses to remain silent about each other's sins, crimes and unbiblical practices.

It is written: You can be sure your sins will find you out.

Nothing is hidden that will not be revealed.

The only way a church can survive these things is to completely remove the entire leadership team, including the Pastor. Regardless of if he is the founding Pastor. Sometimes God has to completely empty out a ministry in order to spare the whole church.

Every leader at Bayside needs to Repent and Resign.

Not the ministry leaders unless they are covering up sins as well.

There are enough godly and God's Word driven men at Bayside who will step up and do the right thing in the eyes of God.

Mega Churches Who Are Not Accountable to the Congregation or the Public are Being Exposed by God.

Bethel Church of Redding

Harvest Bible Chapel

Mars Hill Seattle

Lakewood Church

Willow Creek

Gateway Church

Saddleback

IHOP KC

Pray for Ray Johnston, even church leaders fall from grace.

We know that God is a loving and forgiving God, we also know that God will not be mocked by anyone.

Regardless of the number of attendees, the number of churches, the size of the bank accounts, the value of the properties they sit on or anything else that a person can glory in, God will not allow deceivers in His house,

When a servant of God loses the desires of God and pursues their own earthly and worldly desires, God will take them out, whether they like it or not. Ray Johnston has determined that truth does not matter.

Gods whole character is based on TRUTH!

If a leader of a church has a character the opposite of God,

even though the music is good, the programs are good, the buildings

are beautiful and everything outwardly appears to be Gods blessings,

the sin of that leader tarnishes everything.

Ray Johnston and his entire Bayside leadership team

have closed their eyes to this abomination. God is sifting and testing the souls of men and women to find hearts who are perfect towards Him.

Remember, it was the religious leaders of Jesus' day who killed the TRUTH!

Nothing has changed in today's religious leaders.

Bayside Church of Granite Bay Founded by Ray Johnston

With weekly church attendance reported at 20,000 making it one of the largest churches in the U.S.

If a church leadership, no longer follow the scriptures in all of its daily activities, then it would be fair and appropriate to believe they are no longer followers of Jesus Christ and His Words, which removes them from the category of being a "Christian" church.

Bayside may be doing a lot of good works in their community, but if they are not adhering to the Bible and Jesus' teachings, what makes them any different from any other community service organization? Nothing!

Bayside with all of its offshoots is just another big religious business under the facade of being a God directed ministry.

If you are giving to a Bayside Church, are you promoting the Kingdom of God? or are you promoting the kingdom of Ray Johnston and his earthly kingdom? Jesus never lived like Ray Johnston and Ray Johnston never lived like Jesus. It is an openly religious hypocrisy.

"Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,"

1st Timothy 4:1

From what is evident is this matter, Ray Johnston has not only departed from the faith, he and his leadership team have departed from the

Word of God.

When a church or person departs from the Word of God, they also depart from Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit of God.

Then what does that leave you with? A worldly view consisting of

"the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and the pride of life."

The Apostle Paul warns us in Philippians 3:18,19

"For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame--

who set their mind on earthly things. "

Ray Johnston Over the Years has Created a Very Big Business

He has fooled a lot of people over the years. But 18 years ago, his faith was tested.

He was asked to call a member of Bayside Church into a meeting to discuss the crime of Raley's against Charles Nordby.

The member was Bill Coyne, who at the time was Raley's President and CEO, but was previously Raley's legal counsel.

We thought for sure that if both of these men are men of God,

then they would want to do the right thing.

Sadly, neither of them did the right thing.

They both failed the test of faith.

By every measure of the scriptures, Ray Johnston is not a man of faith,

he is a businessman. Anybody who is able to read, can get up on stage and read from the Bible, put on a great facade, tell a few fun and relevant stories and convince people he is doing the will of God so they will give money to the Ray Johnston religious business agenda.

At this same time God revealed to us a "money scheme" that Ray was using that he hijacked from Saddleback's Rick Warren.

A scheme that Ray Johnston said was his own.

"But if you do not do so, then take note, you have sinned against the Lord; and be sure your sin will find you out." Numbers 32:23

In Matthew 18:15-17, Jesus gives us the highest counsel on dealing with a sinning brother.

"Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone.

If he hears you, you have gained your brother. "But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. "And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.

But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

Why didn't Ray Johnston follow this basic instruction of Jesus?

Because the real Ray Johnston is not a true disciple of Jesus Christ.

Why would Jesus call? Because He is not at Bayside.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

When jack Nordby asked for a meeting with Ray Johnston, he completely ignored Jack for over 18 years. Jesus himself said: "Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.”

And even if Jesus himself did call Bayside, he would never ask for Ray Johnston, He never knew him.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

Jesus said: "I stand at the door and knock"

Ray Johnston has created a kingdom where he doesn't even feel like he has to answer the door when someone is knocking. All the commotion of the Bayside building drowns out the sound of Jesus' knock. No one at Bayside can hear the cries of the lost souls.

No One but Jesus.

Bayside Church of Granite Bay- Lies Never Become the Truth

When the Pastor of a church lies and commits sin, he is no longer a true shepherd and must resign.

Ray Johnston is a liar! He knows God hates a lying tongue.

He didn't care that he lied in an email to the Bayside Church on January 12, 2010 (Read it below)

The 2 messages: Rick Warren writes his church members on 12/30/2009, Ray Johnston copies almost the same message on 1/12/2010 to the Bayside members.

On January 12, 2010 Ray Johnston emails the Bayside Family. Ray didn't realize that a Bayside member had already read Rick Warens email to his church.

If you are a member of Bayside. You're in for a wake-up call

For 18 years Ray Johnston has continued on in his sins. It is time for him to repent.

Why did Pastor Ray Johnston ignore Jack Nordby for 18 years?

Ray was not powerful enough to expose Raley's crime. Instead, he remained silent like everyone did.

Bayside Member Jack Nordby just wanted an answer from Ray.

18 years and not one reply back from Pastor Ray Johnston. The Bayside "Cover-Up Culture" is rampant.

Mega Churches Who Are Not Accountable to the Congregation or the Public are Being Exposed by God.

Just one of many letters ignored by Bayside's Ray Johnston

18 years of letters to Ray Johnston that exposes his ongoing "sin of silence". And not one reply.

Pray for Ray Johnston, even church leaders fall from grace.

We know that God is a loving and forgiving God, we also know that God will not be mocked by anyone.

Bayside Church of Granite Bay Founded by Ray Johnston

With weekly church attendance reported at 20,000 making it one of the largest churches in the U.S.

Ray Johnston Over the Years has Created a Very Big Business

He has fooled a lot of people over the years. But 18 years ago, his faith was tested.

In Matthew 18:15-17, Jesus gives us the highest counsel on dealing with a sinning brother.

Why would Jesus call? Because He is not at Bayside.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

And even if Jesus himself did call Bayside, he would never ask for Ray Johnston, He never knew him.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

As a Follower of Jesus Christ, if anyone wrote letters like this to me, I would be on the phone to them before I finished reading it.

A letter to Ray Johnston and Sherwood Carthen, both Bayside Pastors. Dated January 21, 2009 17 years ago

Bayside Church of Granite Bay- Lies Never Become the Truth

When the Pastor of a church lies and commits sin, he is no longer a true shepherd and must resign.

Ray Johnston is a liar! He knows God hates a lying tongue.

He didn't care that he lied in an email to the Bayside Church on January 12, 2010 (Read it below)

The 2 messages: Rick Warren writes his church members on 12/30/2009, Ray Johnston copies almost the same message on 1/12/2010 to the Bayside members.

On January 12, 2010 Ray Johnston emails the Bayside Family. Ray didn't realize that a Bayside member had already read Rick Warens email to his church.

If you are a member of Bayside. You're in for a wake-up call

For 18 years Ray Johnston has continued on in his sins. It is time for him to repent.

Why did Pastor Ray Johnston ignore Jack Nordby for 18 years?

Ray was not powerful enough to expose Raley's crime. Instead, he remained silent like everyone did.

Bayside Member Jack Nordby just wanted an answer from Ray.

18 years and not one reply back from Pastor Ray Johnston. The Bayside "Cover-Up Culture" is rampant.

Mega Churches Who Are Not Accountable to the Congregation or the Public are Being Exposed by God.

Just one of many letters ignored by Bayside's Ray Johnston

18 years of letters to Ray Johnston that exposes his ongoing "sin of silence". And not one reply.

Pray for Ray Johnston, even church leaders fall from grace.

We know that God is a loving and forgiving God, we also know that God will not be mocked by anyone.

Bayside Church of Granite Bay Founded by Ray Johnston

With weekly church attendance reported at 20,000 making it one of the largest churches in the U.S.

Ray Johnston Over the Years has Created a Very Big Business

He has fooled a lot of people over the years. But 18 years ago, his faith was tested.

In Matthew 18:15-17, Jesus gives us the highest counsel on dealing with a sinning brother.

Why would Jesus call? Because He is not at Bayside.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

And even if Jesus himself did call Bayside, he would never ask for Ray Johnston, He never knew him.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

Ray Johnston even admits by his book title that Jesus is somewhere else asking for his church back.

As a Follower of Jesus Christ, if anyone wrote letters like this to me, I would be on the phone to them before I finished reading it.

A letter to Ray Johnston and Sherwood Carthen, both Bayside Pastors. Dated January 21, 2009 17 years ago

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